Title: p-gme-animals-msg
Subject: Period game animals. Elk, deer, boar.
Author: Edited by Mark S. Harris
Last saved by: Mark S. Harris
Keywords: hunt, game, animal, wild, medieval, elk, deer, boar

p-gme-animals-msg - 10/10/01

Period game animals. Elk, deer, boar.

NOTE: See also the files: fowls-a-birds-msg, hunting-msg, fishing-msg, butchering-msg, venison-msg, falconry-msg, Ferrets-Hunt-art, rabbits-msg.

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From: "Decker, Terry D." <TerryD at Health.State.OK.US>
To: "'sca-cooks at ansteorra.org'" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Subject: RE: Mooses [was Re: [Sca-cooks] Regretable foods.... OOP]
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:20:54 -0500

> Moose are native to Northern Europe and Scandanavia as well, and probably
> could be considered period game (although they may have just called them
> "deer"). Jellied moose nose is probably not period, though. ;-)
>
> Margaret, who is really bored this morning and thus looking up mooses

The original range extended quite a bit further East than Scandinavia and
Northern Europe into Asia.  Alces alces is the Eurasian species and it was
period game.  Alces americana in the North American moose.

Rather than "deer," the European term is "elk."  In the New World, "elk"
became associated with the wapiti (Cervus canadensis).

Rather than "jellied moose nose," think "elk delicacies in aspic."

Bear

To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 08:26:56 -0400
From: Elizabeth A Heckert <spynnere at juno.com>
Subject: [Sca-cooks] Re: [Sca-cooks]Aurochs was: Regretable foods.... OOP]

>Philip & Susan Troy wrote: snipped .....................

> example, the Sutton Hoo Ship Burial has some drinking horns taken
>from the aurochs, which is believed to have been extinct (and may have
>been)   by the approximate time of the burial (7th-8th C. C.E.?)

    I realize England is not Poland, and there may be some traveling
issues involved, but a long time ago I read that the last aurochs were
kept and finally killed in hunting preserves of Polish royalty in the
earl 1600s.

    Is this true, or has it been disproven???

    Elizabeth

From: "Decker, Terry D." <TerryD at Health.State.OK.US>
To: "'sca-cooks at ansteorra.org'" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Subject: RE: Mooses [was Re: [Sca-cooks] Regretable foods.... OOP]
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:14:31 -0500

Taxonomically, the family is Cervidea or "deer" family.  "Elk" is a generic
word used to describe several of the largest members of the family,
primarily Alces alces in Europe and Cervus canadensis in North America.
Irish elk, for example, are a large extint deer of genus Megaceros,
demonstrating that at least three distinct genera have been referred to as
"elk."  "Moose" is a generic word for Alces americana.

The North American elk or wapiti has no equal sized counterpart in Europe.

Also included in the Cervidea are the reindeer and the caribou which can
taxonomically be lumped into Rangifer tarandus (or split out by sub-species
distinctions).  The term reindeer can be applied to both, but in common
usage refers to the Eurasian R. tarandus which has been domesticated as
opposed to the North American caribou which has not been domesticated.

Bear

From: "Decker, Terry D." <TerryD at Health.State.OK.US>
To: "'sca-cooks at ansteorra.org'" <sca-cooks at ansteorra.org>
Subject: RE: [Sca-cooks] Re: [Sca-cooks]Aurochs was: Regretable foods....
        OOP]
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 10:29:39 -0500

"Aurochs" has been used to refer to both the urus (Bos primigenius) and the
wisent (Bison bonasus).

IIRC, the urus, a large, wild ox, was believed extinct by the 5th Century.
The wisent is rare, but can still be found.  It is a smaller version of the
North American bison.

Bear

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