trvlg-w-shlds-msg - 1/26/12 Traveling with shields by commercial transport. NOTE: See also the files: trvlng-w-wpns-msg, SCA-by-train-msg, p-backpacks-msg, border-stories-msg, shields-msg, Shield-Balanc-art, W-T-Shields-art, SCA-transport-msg. ************************************************************************ NOTICE - This file is a collection of various messages having a common theme that I have collected from my reading of the various computer networks. Some messages date back to 1989, some may be as recent as yesterday. This file is part of a collection of files called Stefan's Florilegium. These files are available on the Internet at: http://www.florilegium.org I have done a limited amount of editing. Messages having to do with separate topics were sometimes split into different files and sometimes extraneous information was removed. For instance, the message IDs were removed to save space and remove clutter. The comments made in these messages are not necessarily my viewpoints. I make no claims as to the accuracy of the information given by the individual authors. Please respect the time and efforts of those who have written these messages. The copyright status of these messages is unclear at this time. If information is published from these messages, please give credit to the originator(s). Thank you, Mark S. Harris AKA: THLord Stefan li Rous Stefan at florilegium.org ************************************************************************ Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 14:56:39 +1100 From: Laura Iseman Subject: [Lochac] Travelling with shields To: "The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list" So, people who have flown with armour. Do you generally take a bag big enough to fit your shield or just hand it over as is? Do they cope? Enquiring minds want to know. 8-> Miriam Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:15:15 +0800 From: Columb mac Diarmata Subject: Re: [Lochac] Travelling with shields To: "The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list" Boogie board bag (fits swords too) works for me. Much easier to lug! Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:22:53 +1300 From: "Lynlee O'Keeffe" Subject: Re: [Lochac] Travelling with shields To: Most customs guys are fine either way if stuff is clean and without insects or rawhide. It adds interest to their dull lives of cameras and computers. Baggage handlers are probably less inclined to play with them if they are bagged or covered, just make sure it is easy to access. A friend had her armour in a bag and 2 customs officials looked at the x-ray. One said "What the???" and the other said "Late 14th C - nice! Through you go." Luck of the draw. Claricia Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:49:58 +1300 From: Bob Bain Subject: Re: [Lochac] Travelling with shields To: Duke Gabriel has a cute 4 piece, bolt together one that fits in a very small bag. I tend to strap mine to my pack. Callum Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:26:29 -0800 (PST) From: Hanna Mason Subject: Re: [Lochac] Travelling with shields To: "The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list" Miriam wrote: <<< So, people who have flown with armour. Do you generally take a bag big enough to fit your shield or just hand it over as is? Do they cope? >>> I once rang to ask and they said just to bring the shields and they had airline oversize bags there.? When we actually got there they were much less forthcoming, but we managed to talk them into it and were able to put in two shields and three swords as one bag.? Then they asked if it needed a fragile sticker. It really depends on the airline - you could try ringing to ask, as we did. Essyllt Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:33:50 +1300 From: "j.anderson" Subject: Re: [Lochac] Travelling with shields To: "The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list" On my last few flights over the ditch I've put mine in a separate sack, and it's been treated as an over-sized item (amusingly this involves it being stickered as fragile when flying on Emirates,)in Aussie this seems to mean it will be checked for explosives. Doing this can be expensive if you're flying via an airline that charges per item of luggage eg Air NZ Radbod Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 22:27:29 -0800 (PST) From: Phil Abrahams Subject: Re: [Lochac] Travelling with shields To: "The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list" Generally, we've just rocked up, checked in, had all baggage etc weighed then been directed to drop the shields at the "large item" check in counter, then go through to the departure lounge. Mind you, there has been the occasion that we've been looking down from the lounge and watched the baggage being loaded, to see one of the baggage handlers using the shields in pretend fights with each other........? Hugh Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:14:23 +1000 From: "Brett Hollindale" Subject: Re: [Lochac] Travelling with shields To: "The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list" I have a custom made sports bag for my gear. Had it for 10 or 12 years - no worries anywhere :-) Agro Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 21:53:50 +1030 From: "Rebecca Tonkin" Subject: Re: [Lochac] Travelling with shields To: "'The Shambles: the SCA Lochac mailing list'" When I've flown with a shield, it does depend on the airline. Virgin so far has been happy to take it as a separate piece, as long as the total of your bag+shield does not exceed the weight limit. If it does, you will be charged excess. Note that Virgin no longer has a sports allowance (I suggest emailing them to tell them this is not a good thing and they should bring it back, or else allow people to purchase extra baggage allowance up front like Qantas does - $20 for an extra 20 kg bag domestic). Qantas is strict on the numbers of bags they allow, and a shield counts as a bag, so get yourself a big cloth bag and put the shield inside it along with all the armour, and garb, up to the allowance. Note that when flying, a case with wheels weighs at least 3-4 kg. A cloth bag weighs about 1 kg. Also, both airlines are getting stricter about carry-on bag sizes and weights. Collette Edited by Mark S. Harris trvlg-w-shlds-msg 4 of 4